skibum707

I am about to pull the trigger on this lift to complement the fj-80 FR coils in the RR w/ stock fj rear shocks as well. I have searched and searched and i cant seem to find what exactly people dislike about the 5100s? maybe i dont get it but from what i gather the tundra coils are soft? also the 2'' from the 5100s+the 1.5'' from the TUndras = 3.5'' correct or am i missing something here?

BIC performance

I have the same setup on my car, it rides great if you dont use the max 2.5" lift (front). The fj80 coils will give you about 3.5" lift. I found it a little soft on the highway when loaded down, so I put some Firestone airbags inside the coils for more load capacity and to make it a touch stiffer. The 5100's are awsome!! I wouldnlt put anything else in my truck.

skibum707

If im not mistaken you have the SS custom valved billies right?... since i doubt steve would sell me them seperate from his kit does anyone have an opinion on this setup with the off the shelf ones for tacos?

Cal01

He wont sell them separate, I've emailed him about it.

we are in the same boat...there has to be an alternative for trd red shocks and blue trds.

Cal01

well found me some blue trds...

any updates?

One_96TR4

I got a set of shocks of of him without buying his lift. I did however buy a few other things from him. I'd contact him and see what he says.

BajaRunner

http://www.toyteclifts.com/index.php...mart&Itemid=72

I'll probably be buying them here ... If anyone has a cheaper place, let me know please.

skibum707

contact the toytech lifts guy on here for a member discount

crackiswack

I would do some research into using the Bilstein 5100's on a 4runner. Most complain that they are undervalved and result in a bouncy ride due to the heavier front compared to a tacoma, which is what they were built for. The SS versions are custom valved and do not have this issue

ToyotaGuy02

I've heard that the stock 5100's suck as well.
Has anyone tried the OEM TRD Bilsteins in the attached picture? These came with my coils and I got an awesomely cheap deal on these from Tundra solutions forum. I heard they are similar to the red/blue Bilsteins that people were running with these coils a while back. Input?

skibum707

re: the 5100s ... so by bouncy you dont mean jarring? becuase i would be fine with a bouncy front end as long as its not jarring... ill be using them with 3" eibach lift coils which is basicly the same setup that toytech uses for their coilovers...

Cal01

try them on and let us know

skibum707

stilll lookin for an opinion on the definition of "boucyiness" of the 5100s above

One_96TR4

I'm pretty sure he mean's a soft bounciness but a hard jarring bouncing.

BajaRunner

I'd imagine if the whole "4runner being a lot heavier than the Tacoma" argument would mean the shocks aren't valved high enough to sufficently dampen the oscillation of the springs. AKA: When you see a heavily loaded truck go over a speed bump, you see the rear end bounce 2-3 times after the bump. That means the shocks are valved too low and do not dampen the oscillations. This is what I think the guy means when he says its bouncy.

I couldn't imagine that the 5100's are valved that low...I was about to buy a set now I'll look into the numbers and make a decision.

skibum707

let me know what you come up with for the 5100s

sschaefer3

Read all the way through it.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/foru...ad.php?t=30469

SharpStick

I'm running a '96 4Runner with about 2.75-inch lift in front and about 3-inches lift in back. I used the TRD Tundra/Bilstein 5100 adjustables up front (TRD blue/yellow-yellow/yellow and the Bilstein BE5-6929-HO - the Tundra app) with an All-Pro one-inch poly spacer over a diff-drop. I did not jack up the 5100 on its perch, but there's another two inches there if I want to play. The back is just an 890 with the Bilstein LC shock (B461478).

I've got killer stuff and movement front and rear, and none of this boinginess some folks have complained about. The truck rides well with 400lb of firewood and gear in back, and it trails marvelously. I doubt this is far from the SS front combo, though I haven't bothered to figure their stuff out. I've got other things to do.

You can read about the steps I went through on off-road.com:
http://www.off-road.com/trucks4x4/au...l.jsp?id=45041

STICK with .45 ACP: because shooting twice is silly

nah2323

Those yellow billies are nice, i just dropped them in mine and they are pretty "official"

BIC performance

Good writeups sharpstick, lots of good info and pics in that thread.

The first gen Tundra uses the same front suspension as the 4runner but is heavier than the Tacoma, so the shock valving may be better suited for the 4runner.