Homer666

I have about 2.5" with the OME setup. My 285/75/16's only rub the Bushwacker's at compression while having the wheel turned. Otherwise, they clear the suspension components (I can't tell by how much because I really haven't looked).

Regarding the lift without larger tires, I've included 3 pictures: 265's with no lift; 265's with lift; 285's with lift (which I prefer).







James

chadbobb

Is there a difference in a suspension lift vs a bl in terms of clearing tires?

Like would a 2.5" bl clear the larger tires the same as a 2.5" suspension lift?

Because if you rub a little with 285s at 2.5 suspension lift, im wondering if i could do 275 with a 2" BL
That is if i can even find a 275
I wish Suspension lifts wern't so expensive, i would do both

Swede

Except for the snow, it should look like this with a 2" BL and stock sized tires:
As for the BL, I wouldn't go any higher than 2" as you're into a lot more work.

chadbobb

Ok, that doesn't look too bad, i think a 1.5 BL would look perfectly normal

If i get a 2" body lift, how much bigger tires can i get?

Swede

If you're going to take the trouble to do a BL then go with the 2". You can fit 285/75's but you will probably get a bit of rubbing on the frame at full lock at the front as well as you will rub the pinch weld while off-roading.

Here's a pic of my rig with just the 2" BL and 285's:

chadbobb

How did you get teh 285's on the stock wheels? That isn't too wide? If i can keep my stock wheels and go to 285's i will probably get the 2" BL and put the 285/75's on, and just not turn all the way

btw does that include your 3" revteck lift in the pic? Or is it just the 2" body lift with the 285's

one last thing what is the pinch weld?

Swede

285's on the stock wheels is fine. The last pic is JUST the BL and 285's. Just do a search on "pinch weld", or if you're lazy like me then here, check this link out (scroll about 3/4's of the way down): https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...2pinch+weld%22

chadbobb

Alright, thanks. Im assuming that yours, with a 2" BL and 3" suspension lift that you don't rub at all with 285's?

Would it be hard for me to modify my pinch weld? I don't have any kind of hard core tools. Im just learning how to do most of this stuff.

And how bad would it rub on my frame? Just a little? Enough to worry about?

How about just your opinion as well. Is this worth even getting the 285's. Im not a hardcore wheeler. I might go play around in some mud and light trails and stuff, but no rock crawling or anything. We don't even have rocks to crawl on around here.

Thanks for all the help

neliconcept

stock wheels and mt tires wont be fine, AT tires its sorta fine

HarrisonP

Just remember that with 285's on stock wheels you are going to rub at full lock.
*edit* just saw you post Swede.

AH64ID

There is a huge amount of difference.

A 2.5" BL will proved room for approx 5" bigger tires, of the same width. Going wider will decrease the available height. A 2.5" susp lift on these rigs actually provides no room for larger tires. The spacer/spring lift simply places you higher in the stock movement arm, so when you compress on a trail, speedbump etc you compress to where it would stock, leaving no room for larger tires.

If you look at many of the 3rd gens and tacos with 285's, they run a 1" BL. A 1" BL provides room for approx a 2" larger tires, 265 --> 285 is about 1 - 1.5.. perfect.

When I get my new taco I plan to run OME springs, about 1.75" lift with my winch/bumper. I will be sticking to 265/75 as they are already a 32, and I can fit chains. The point in the new springs is better offroad control than stockers.


EDIT: The pinchweld is usually solved with a 3lb sledge I even used an air nibbler on mine trimmed the sheet metal and wheel well liner, and rescrewed the liner on.. looks stock but I have almost 1" more clerance at the fender liner.

chadbobb

Ok, well im going to get AT. I don't want anyting more than that because I will be mainly on the street.

What about a real suspension (not coil spacers, but like a sonoransteel lift?)
Also,



Oh, and and i have one new questions that i never realized could be a problem. Harrison said with stock wheels it will rup at full lock. What about non stock wheels? Someone said i could go to 285's on my 7.5" wide wheels, but if i go wider will it rub less? Should i maybe invest in some used wheels? (or find cheap new ones that are wider?)

Thanks a bunch guys - without all the help i would probably have bought 305's and tired to fit them with a 1" body lift.

AH64ID

Spacers are "real" suspension lift too. The only way to make room for larger tires with suspension lift is to use a bracket lift. The smallest is 4", and from what I hear its not the best. So that leaves you a 6" lift, and still only the ability to run a 33x12.50 w/out some trimming. You have to have a lift the lowers the hub/bumpstops, for any given location in the movement arc..



The width and BS are the key to proper fitment. I am not sure about 3rd gens and tacos, but on 2nd gens and pickups its 3.75". I would go with a 8" wide wheel at the widest, any wider and you start to create more fitment issues. PM some of the guys you see on here with aftermarket wheels and 285's, see what bamachem has, or doubledown.

chadbobb

What is BS? Is that part of the wheel? (remember, noob here)

AH64ID

backspacing

chadbobb

ok.

So do you reccomend i keep the 7.5inch stock wheels? And to change my backspacing do i need anything like wheel spacers? Will that keep me from rubbing the a-arms and frame?

neliconcept

their not 7.5 just 16x7. you might rub a arms you might not without wheel spacers, putting wheel spacers on will just eliminate rubbing a arm and frame and make your rub the pinch weld too. search on how to trim areas. its gonna need to be done. Im now sitting on 3 inch sus and 2 inch bl lifts for a total of about 5 to 5.5 inchs, I cleared all of my rubbing problems but if I were to go wider like a 305/70/16 tire i might start rubbing again or if I goto a 35 inch tire im going to have to shave my a arms, trim and regear.

do some extensive researching before thinkin of more questions, i bet money they will answer yours , happy liftin

tacoma728

who cares what it looks like for a week or two? I had six inches of lift on 265s.

chadbobb

kinda an old thread. I don't care what it looks like for two weeks. It would be much more than two weeks. Several months or more

tacoma728

You can't really worry about other's opinions, because even with 33x12.50s which i have now, look comparitively small to full size trucks. You just can't worry about stuff like that. As soon as you can dish out the funds go for it, but don't let that hold you back from driving it. Its better to have the work of the lift done and let it sit than getting the tires. Tires take minutes, and it is starting to get real cold outside. Have a good day,

Tacoma728