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Old 02-14-2012, 06:39 AM
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Thought. If therre isn't an o2 sensor connected at all, shouldnt the ecu see a "no signal" and throw a code with a CEL?
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....I've researched o2 sensors on the net and the plugs seem to match the unplugged sensor i have under the hood. right now im looking for a flange to take to the muffler shop and a cat and have things done right...
Good luck with the flange, I had to make one and salvage another when I put on a new exhaust. More on that:

I couldn't find anyone that sells a Toyota O2 sensor bung to weld into the new exhaust piping. After talking to a friend that works at the local Toyota dealer about where to get one, he says why don't you just make one? I hadn't thought of that Jason, thanks for the idea. So here's how to make your own O2 sensor bung.
I started with a piece of 3/8 steel and marked the outline with a gasket and drilled and tapped some holes (8mm x 1.25):


I used some exhaust studs from the dealer that were left over when I was putting on an ORS cross-over.


Then I started cutting it out with a cutoff wheel on an angle grinder:

After using a grinder and beltsander to smooth it out:


Now that was one bung, but I need two for the 5VZ. The first one took me about 2-3 hours to make so I decided to try cutting an old one out of my old 3.0 exhaust pipe and using it. That took about 2-3 hours too, counting replacing the old studs and smoothing it out with a grinder and beltsander too.

Here's the two side by side, the one I made from scratch will have to be welded in parallel to the pipe since it's not curved to the shape of the pipe:


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Oh and sorry about the F5 damage to your town. God bless
Old 02-14-2012, 04:51 PM
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Mt. Goat, thanks for that write up. Your posting of it was perfect timing. I thought i could call the local exhaust shops and see if they had them or could get them. Well thats what i get for thinkin!! Lol. I've got the guys in the tooling section at work hunting down some 3/8 steel plate and im going to buy the o2 sensor. Since we have to make this on our own time, i expect this to be about a week in the making. I do have the abilty to put a perfect radius on the bottom side to get a good solid weld with.

Side note: I'm actually quite surprised how far the factory cat location is downstream from the engine. In my experience, the closer the cat is to the heat souce the better the heavy metal catalysts function. Also hotter gases tend to flow faster than colder gases. So, to me anyway, it seems that the factory place the cat in it's position for other reasons other than performance. I guess il just have to get an OBX longtube header, high flow cat, and a Spintech muffler.

And thanks for the concern for this great city. It's appreciated. Fortunately my home was two blocks away from total destruction. But my family and i rode it out in that truck.
Pre F5

Post F5

we were definatly looked out for
Old 02-14-2012, 05:01 PM
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Double post.

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Ok. I made a o2 mount, welded it on, found the old o2 sensor zip tied to the underbody. Up towards the top of the trans. It looks like it runs into the cab under the drivers seat. Do i have to remove the seat and vinyl flooring to get to the connector or does it lead to somwhere else? The plug i saw under the hood isnt it like i initially thought. Now i have to figure out what that is and why its not connected. Also, can someone tell me the difference between "California" and "Federal" emissions equipment and why there are two different o2 sensors. I looked in the FSM i downloaded and didnt get alot of clarity out of it. Thanks
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On my 2001 Taco I had to remove the doorsill trim and lift the carpet inside. I did't have to remove the seat but it would have made it easier to reach if I had. My 93 truck it was all under the body, so it must vary model to model.

If you have 2 sensors, one is pre-cat (sensor#1) and one is post cat (#2). Sensor #1 reads the air/fuel ratio and the ECU makes adjustments to try to maintain stoichiometric perfection. Sensor #2 monitors the effectiveness of the cat, and tells you if you emit too much for the EPA's liking. Some of the new models use sensor #2 to occasionally calibrate sensor #1. I'm not sure what year that started but probably 2001 for the tacos when they started using the newer wide band sensors (A/F sensors).

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Originally Posted by mt_goat
On my 2001 Taco I had to remove the doorsill trim and lift the carpet inside. I did't have to remove the seat but it would have made it easier to reach if I had. My 93 truck it was all under the body, so it must vary model to model.

If you have 2 sensors one is pre-cat (sensor#1) and one is post cat (#2). Sensor #1 reads the air/fuel ratio and the ECU makes adjustments to try to maintain stoichiometric perfection. Sensor #2 monitors the effectiveness of the cat, and tells you if you emit too much for the EPA's liking.
Yes your right. But what i ment by two o2 sensors is, the part stores list two different o2's for an 89 4runner with 22re. The difference is being equipped with either "california" or "federal"emissions. I just need to figure out what mine is so i can make sure i have the right o2.
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Oh, I misunderstood the question. I don't know on that one. Good luck
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Lol. Thanks. I have a feeling im gonna need it.
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I found the emissions sticker on the hood and it mentions "US emissions for 1989." So i think ihave will go with that and get an o2 for federal instead of California. If it dont work ill get one for California.
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I got to thinking a good parts guy at a dealer or online dealer should be able to take your VIN # and get the right one for you.
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Yeah i was thinking the same thing. Im calling my local dealer today on mu lunch break.



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