Plarpy

Hi, new to this site. I recently acquired a basket case '86 4Runner that I am in the process of resurrecting. Over the years it has had engine swaps (apparently) and someone swapped out the engine harness and ECM (with wrong parts). Anyway, missing a lot of hard to find parts to make it run correctly. Plus the harness was in horrible shape. Long story short, I am going to convert it to a carb setup. I have already removed the cobbled up fuel injection equipment and weeded out the mangled up wiring harness - only leaving behind the essentials from the body side of that harness (starter, a/c, oil and temp gauges, backup lights, etc).

My question is this - even though this is a very early fuel injection set up, it did have a knock sensor. During my weeding out of the harness, I un-pinned and removed everything that originally terminated at the ECM. Included in that bundle was a 3-wire pigtail that went all the way over to a green, round 3-wire plug that connected to the igniter on the ignition coil. I tested everything after I got finished with the harness - everything works, including power to the coil when the key is on. What is going to be affected by the absence of that 3-wire connection to the igniter from the ECM? I assume that's knock sensor input. But will the ignition system still function and provide timing advance with that disconnected? If it IS going to be a problem, what are my options?

Thanks in advance. I'm hoping someone knows these answers.

Jimkola

Are the three wires black, with either a red, yellow, or white stripe?
If so, they're just for EFI.

Plarpy

Yes. All three were black, seems like one had a red stripe, one had a yellow stripe and the 3rd one may have been all black - or possibly had a white stripe. I'm at work now, can't confirm.

Plarpy

I'm aware - I de-term'd them from the ECM connector. My question is how will this affect my ignition timing advance? Does the ECM control it or does it only retard it when there's a knock sensor input?

millball

You need a vacuum advance type distributor from a carb engine.
The EFI distributor will not be satisfactory.

Plarpy

Thanks for the input.

AnnaManning

Have you found your answer?

Plarpy

not definitively. But I’ll have it running soon and that I’ll know for sure.

AnnaManning

Ok

Plarpy

Finally got this thing running today with the carburetor set up. It runs fantastic but as I suspected there is no spark advance. The ignition timing is just constant. I have it set around 17° and it’s fairly drivable but I am going to put an earlier style, vacuum advance distributor in it.

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